Dumb bitches like this piss me off.

[CranialEntropy]

Grimlin Wrote:

Well said Fred and some other folk, but this really needs to die. There really is zero ground for debate from a scientific perspective.

[dirtymonkey22]

Grimlin Wrote:LOL @ there must be an explanation for everything in life.

no not really why cant something just be something. why do we need a resone now this is what makes us different from a dog the need to question

[Star]

Dogs and cats question things all the time.

"Where is my food?"
"Why are you leaving again?"
"I can has cheezburger?"

[dirtymonkey22]

yeah but thats pretty much basics anyliving creature has a basic thouht prosses humans (well some) are far beyound that u show me a animal that can build a house,car or space ship without human help humans create vast and great things and mess everything up at the same time we fuck up the world because everyother creature is to stupid to know how

[CranialEntropy]

dirtymonkey22 Wrote:...we fuck up the world because everyother creature is to stupid to know how

[Ms Felony]

dirtymonkey22 Wrote:yeah but thats pretty much basics anyliving creature has a basic thouht prosses humans (well some) are far beyound that u show me a animal that can build a house,car or space ship without human help

We've never built a spaceship.

[Grimlin]

Star Wrote:Dogs and cats question things all the time.

"Where is my food?"
"Why are you leaving again?"
"I can has cheezburger?"

agagagaga.....That made my day.

[CranialEntropy]

Ms Felony Wrote:

dirtymonkey22 Wrote:yeah but thats pretty much basics anyliving creature has a basic thouht prosses humans (well some) are far beyound that u show me a animal that can build a house,car or space ship without human help

We've never built a spaceship.

Uh, no.

[XIII]

You guys are over simplifying again. When a human baby is deveoping, scientists have found the point where the brain is a reptilian brain, mammalian brain, and finally... when the child is fully developed... the human brain. Our classification of "mammal" is simply because we fit the definition. And since we're not "arrogant," we didn't make a new classification.

[azriley2k]

So I was coming on here to talk about the moron that fell down a man hole. That's right I said it man hole. And now I have no idea what what the hell there is still to argue about.

One person, I forgot who, told some one else to "get an education" because "humans are not animals". When someone that has obviously at least taken biology 101 gives a very educated and informed answer to the topic at hand. And there was a response of "because that is that THEY say it is doesn't make it the truth"

Then another person, maybe the same person, posts a "dictonary" definition that says:

<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/animal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/animal</a><!-- m -->
1. any member of the kingdom Animalia, comprising multicellular organisms that have a well-defined shape and usually limited growth, can move voluntarily, actively acquire food and digest it internally, and have sensory and nervous systems that allow them to respond rapidly to stimuli: some classification schemes also include protozoa and certain other single-celled eukaryotes that have motility and animallike nutritional modes.

Humans (Homo Sapians) are members of the Aniamlia Kingdom, therefore by this definition, are animals.

And here is the best part, the same website says that humans are not animals. The source is obviously biased.

And I am Agree with the general consensus that you guys are retarded.

[XIII]

Over simplifying everything again.

This argument is really boring. Requesting a lock on this. It's going in circles.

[CrAzYT]

It seems there is a large debate about whether humans are animals or not...

Humans are animals, no scientist would disagree with that statement. A human being (scientific name: homo sapien sapien, and yes, I meant to type sapien twice) is a part of the great ape family. Our ability to build sophisticated tools to help us proceed in life, and make life "easier," does not separate us from the mammalian family.

I'm not sure where this confusion stems from. If you know anything about basic evolution, you would understand that our ancestors did not have the brain capacity for reasoning as we do today - this was brought forth by a genetic mutation that was passed onwards during procreation. This is why evolution is not thought to "flow" as Darwin said, but is more "punctuated," which is what made Stephen Jay Gould famous. If a mutation is not passed on, evolution does not occur.

Not to mention, at one time we had two distinct great apes that were "aware," and had the ability for higher reasoning. This was indeed the homo sapien and the homo neanderthal. The Neanderthals were highly intelligent hominids that happened to die out for reasons unknown. So any claim that we are distinct and unique, one of a kind, is only in reference to the time period. In the past, we were not so unique in the animal kingdom...

So, whoever said that Mike Willoughby needs a further education needs to check in with their own. Human beings are multi-cellular animals that are not-so-different from other members of the great ape family, or to be more precise, Hominidae has chimps, orangutans, gorillas, and humans.

[Grimlin]

XIII Wrote:Over simplifying everything again.

This argument is really boring. Requesting a lock on this. It's going in circles.

As does everything else,when you have two different parties disagreeing with something.

Which is why i stayed out of this one.I'm glad i did for once.

I find it funny science always needs an explanation for things they don't understand.

[XIII]

People are animals in that we aren't vegetables or minerals. That's the ONLY scientific basis anyone here has.

Also, do you think the bacteria in our stomachs know that they're part of a bigger organism? Who's to say we're not just cogs in a machine? Zoom out a couple million light years and we're just bacteria in a giant's stomach.

[juggalogigolo]

you sir, are a fucking moron. congratulations!

[XIII]

Because I use logic and understanding? Rather than try and interpret dictionary entries?

[dirtymonkey22]

Ms Felony Wrote:

dirtymonkey22 Wrote:yeah but thats pretty much basics anyliving creature has a basic thouht prosses humans (well some) are far beyound that u show me a animal that can build a house,car or space ship without human help

We've never built a spaceship.

really humans never been to space what do u think they went to the moon in sent shit to mars in no we havent built a fucking deathstar or a enterprise a space shuttel /ship what ever u want to call it and if u me we as in u and me well we are capable of doing it a group of cats didnt get together and find a way to space humans did

[Ms Felony]

No, we didn't, space travel is impossible so why make a space ship.

[dirtymonkey22]

let me guess this didnt happen it was made on a sound stage right well im pretty sure the goverment didnt say hey lets fake a moon landing and lie about it for who knows how long. and its not impossible we just havent developed the tech to go farther but i would say the gov has done alot more with space then they will say

[Ms Felony]

No, NASA did, they made it all up.

[sTr]

nasa, def made it up.... you can tell it's fake as shit by watching the video, seems bs too me... idk, you guys will probably think !'m loony, but fuck it...

[Paullehh]

As cool as being on the moon would be, wouldn't you be stressing thinking about how the fuck your going to get home if the ignition fails

[Star]

word, i'd never want to go to space, even after tons of people lived there and it was deemed "safe". i hate airplanes, fuck flying faster than the speed of light into space where there's no air and you would just free fall for eternity if you crashed

[Ms Felony]

[dirtymonkey22]

there was a astronute that said 1 person has a hard time keeping a secret so what makes u think 400,000 can keep 1 this big

[sTr]

the govt loves bs'ing folks... ! can believe we have gone to the moon, but ! imagine the first one was to be the first... look, it worked... nobody else has ever tried to go there...

[CrAzYT]

Yes, we do define everything ... that's how we come to any sort of understanding as to what we are apart of. If we didn't have labels for things, we would have no basis for relationship. We classify all these systems in order to relate them ... to see what kind of cousins we have in order to better understand our system. I don't understand how it's not logical to refute that humans and many other animals use relationship in order to understand. It's pretty basic - you start with an axiom and make relationships to understand - that is logic by definition...

So I guess considering you do not believe in axioms and relationships, that mathematics is also incorrect, that 1 + 1 = 2 is not true. The number 1 is a part of a greater system it doesn't understand; therefore, we cannot classify 1 as a number, and 1 + 1 = 2 is then not true. This is essentially what you are arguing.

On NASA faking the Moon landings - I would like to know how we have gathered so much Moon dirt. The Russians never got to the Moon, but were able to recover very minor amounts of Lunar soil. The technology isn't there to gather so much of the soil, it is only possible through direct mission. Not to mention we went to the Moon on several occasions, not just once...why do people say we went once and then stopped? That's not true at all. We stopped going in the early 1970's simply because the government stopped supporting missions because they felt there was nothing to be gained. Having worked at Kennedy Space Center for 2.5 years, I can assure you that the budget is spit. There's just really no money to get to the Moon now, not to mention the orbiters/shuttles were not designed to reach the Moon.

[CranialEntropy]

XIII Wrote:People are animals in that we aren't vegetables or minerals. That's the ONLY scientific basis anyone here has.

Also, do you think the bacteria in our stomachs know that they're part of a bigger organism? Who's to say we're not just cogs in a machine? Zoom out a couple million light years and we're just bacteria in a giant's stomach.

bajaj, as dumb as this is, it does grant the opening for a cool fact:
90% of cells in our bodies are foreign. We're only roughly 10% composed of human cells. How fucking cool is that? We're walking talking ecosystems of extreme symbiosis. If it wasn't for all that natural flora we'd be some dead motherfuckers.

[FxXxckOff]

i've read none of this post but I agree with TJ... because he is the smartest nigger here

[XIII]

FxXxckOff Wrote:i've read none of this post but I agree with TJ... because I'm nostalgic and like to kiss OG B6er's asses.

[FxXxckOff]

Uh...no..like really. He is the smartest fuck here.

[XIII]

FxXxckOff Wrote:Uh...no..like really. He is the smartest fuck here.

You base that on what?

You don't know shit about me, or probably most people here.

[Grimlin]

FxXxckOff Wrote:Uh...no..like really. He is the smartest fuck here.

Might be the smartest,but even the smartest isn't always right. ;)

He's trying to explain something,even scientist can't explain(logically)....which i find quite silly.

[XIII]

CrAzYT Wrote:It seems there is a large debate about whether humans are animals or not...

Humans are animals, no scientist would disagree with that statement. A human being (scientific name: homo sapien sapien, and yes, I meant to type sapien twice) is a part of the great ape family. Our ability to build sophisticated tools to help us proceed in life, and make life "easier," does not separate us from the mammalian family.

I'm not sure where this confusion stems from. If you know anything about basic evolution, you would understand that our ancestors did not have the brain capacity for reasoning as we do today - this was brought forth by a genetic mutation that was passed onwards during procreation. This is why evolution is not thought to "flow" as Darwin said, but is more "punctuated," which is what made Stephen Jay Gould famous. If a mutation is not passed on, evolution does not occur.

Not to mention, at one time we had two distinct great apes that were "aware," and had the ability for higher reasoning. This was indeed the homo sapien and the homo neanderthal. The Neanderthals were highly intelligent hominids that happened to die out for reasons unknown. So any claim that we are distinct and unique, one of a kind, is only in reference to the time period. In the past, we were not so unique in the animal kingdom...

So, whoever said that Mike Willoughby needs a further education needs to check in with their own. Human beings are multi-cellular animals that are not-so-different from other members of the great ape family, or to be more precise, Hominidae has chimps, orangutans, gorillas, and humans.

Ok, so, scientists can study on humans? Involuntarily? Right? Cuz they're just mammals.

NO. Like I said it's more complicated than you guys make it. There's scientific, legal, and theological views to consider here. You seem to focus entirely on what you learned in your freshmen evolution class. That's cute and all, but it's still only one side of the argument.

If you were a judge, would you hear the plaintiff's complaint and go, "Ohhh, shit, that sunovabitch is GUILTY!" and award in their favor?

No.

But yeah, you're the smartest person here, apparently. Smart, maybe. Wise... not at all.

[FxXxckOff]

XIII Wrote:

FxXxckOff Wrote:Uh...no..like really. He is the smartest fuck here.

You base that on what?

You don't know shit about me, or probably most people here.

Dude, it's the internet. You should know this by now. Don't take everything so god damned seriously. It seems like you base your life from message board to message board trying to act like an e-tough guy. Fuck off if you can't stop being a dick for 2 seconds to realize someone is just trying to lighten the mood a little bit. Go read some comics or maybe a fresh issue of wizard magazine and simmer down.