Poll: What is your OS?

azriley2k · 07-22-2009, 10:43 PM

State your Case.... MAC or PC?

***sTr*** · 07-22-2009, 11:55 PM

this is a hard one for me... minus the mac part because that is out of the equation. Now, don't get me wrong because Macs are great for what they are, but nothing that ! NEED. That being said here is why !'m a bit torn.

For desktop work Windows all the way, XP was good, Vista wasn't as bad as everyone said and so far Windows 7 is sexy.

Now on the flip side, Linux is my os of choice for my mobile devices(Note/Netbook). Reason being is that Linux(Ubuntu in particular) uses less system resources, so ! can have my shit ass netbook and it still runs decent and gets the job done, now if that was windows my little buddy would be freezing up on me left and right. Ask me, ! know.

So, as far as a vote, !'ll do that later, ! still have to toss this around in my head.

XIII · 07-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Way to forget to vote, faggot.

Mac winning in a landslide at 100% woooo!!!

My reason is because I've used both. I edit photos, videos, audio. PCs crash a LOT, Macs.... never crash. That's it.

I hate working for an hour and a half (or more, depending on how careless I am with saving) only to have a PC fuck up all my stuff and I have to do it again.

PCs have games. Cool. I don't play games on PC cuz I get carpal tunnel. I play consoles.

Also the customer support for mac is better.

I just feel more efficient behind a mac. That's all. PCs I find myself doing too many workarounds to get the same thing done. Like screen caps. Gimme a break.

***sTr*** · 07-23-2009, 12:33 AM

sTr Wrote:So, as far as a vote, !'ll do that later, ! still have to toss this around in my head.

azriley2k · 07-23-2009, 07:22 PM

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Nuff said!

XIII · 07-23-2009, 10:46 PM

You know nothing of which you speak.

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azriley2k · 07-24-2009, 01:59 PM

Maybe you are right, maybe I don't know enough about Mac or Linux to make a 100% informed opinion. However I do know what I like. I like having the feeling of actually owning a computer rather than just paying for an experience.

I like the fact that on a PC I have a lot more customizable options than Mac will allow. I like the fact that if I wanted to build a computer piece by piece I have that option and I have the availability to upgrade any component piece I want. Not just hard drive or RAM, but video cards, sound cards, Ethernet cards, additional USB ports just to name a few. Like I already said, Maybe I don't know enough about Macs to make an informed opinion. Can you upgrade those components on a Mac?

I do know that Macs, while great for photo and video editing, are not for someone that enjoys video games. Granted, I have been playing my XBox a lot more than any games on my PC, however, on my PC I can play any console games I please. Call me old, but I enjoy a lot NES AND SNES games better than I do some Xbox games mainly due to nostalgia purposes. Not to mention some of my favorite games are only on PC.

I do everything on my PC. I can manage all my finances using Quicken. I can develop web applications and software using visual studio and SQL Server. I can build and modify my network to include networked printers networked drives so that I can access those things through any computer in the house. I have also come to find that there are applications out there (freeware) for anything I can think of. Like for example, did you know there is software designed to assist people that have multiple monitors set up? It's true. It works great too. I don't know if the developers bothered with the same software for Macs though.

As for Linux, all I can say is that I tired Linux once (Red Hat 6) and I didn't have the patience for it. I have heard that the learning curve isn't has bad as it used to be.

So to conclude, maybe you are right, maybe I don't know what I am talking about. Maybe I am just comfortable with Windows because I am so used to it and know my way around the software. But I do know that for the things that I use a computer for, I cannot use a Mac.

Disagree? Prove me wrong with something a little bit more than I "don't know what I am talking about"

canttouchthis80 · 07-25-2009, 01:04 AM

linux

XIII · 07-25-2009, 01:13 PM

azriley2k Wrote:Disagree? Prove me wrong with something a little bit more than I "don't know what I am talking about"

To be fair, your original argument was just a lame comic about how all you can do on a mac is organize photos.

azriley2k Wrote:Not just hard drive or RAM, but video cards, sound cards, Ethernet cards, additional USB ports just to name a few. Can you upgrade those components on a Mac?

Yes, you can. There are certain combinations that won't work with say, the pre-intel Macs. But you can have more USB (I dunno why you'd need more, mine has over 10 built-in), better video (the selection is small though), not quite sure what an "ethernet card" is, or why you'd have to upgrade one... but you can use ethernet cables on a Mac. And sound cards, same as video... you can upgrade them, you just have a limited selection.

azriley2k Wrote:I do know that Macs, while great for photo and video editing, are not for someone that enjoys video games.

The selection is limited but growing. Sadly there's more iPhone games than Mac games.

Emulation community has grown, I have every single Nintendo game made before Gamecube on here. And a genesis emu. And a logitech controller that looks like a PS2 controller to play with.

azriley2k Wrote:I do everything on my PC. I can manage all my finances using Quicken. I can develop web applications and software using visual studio and SQL Server. I can build and modify my network to include networked printers networked drives so that I can access those things through any computer in the house. I have also come to find that there are applications out there (freeware) for anything I can think of. Like for example, did you know there is software designed to assist people that have multiple monitors set up? It's true. It works great too. I don't know if the developers bothered with the same software for Macs though.

All of those can be done on mac, and there are freeware and pirated copies of every good program. I use 2 monitors (one of which is a 40 inch HDTV) and all of my programs utilize this.

Just sounds like you didn't give Macs a chance. Not asking you to, but they can do more than slideshows and coverflow.

canttouchthis80 · 07-25-2009, 02:39 PM

everything can be done on all systems its just u have to find the fight program

XIII · 07-25-2009, 02:49 PM

canttouchthis80 Wrote:everything can be done on all systems its just u have to find the fight program

Yeah, exactly. It takes about 1 hour to master OSX. And about a day to get every program you'll ever need.

Windows gets the job done, I just like the full program integration of Mac. I just feel like I can move stuff from one program to another a lot more easily.

canttouchthis80 · 07-25-2009, 03:03 PM

i rolled with all three linux just seems better for me

***sTr*** · 07-25-2009, 03:04 PM

what version?

XIII · 07-25-2009, 03:15 PM

Linux is okay. I'd never want it as my only computer though.

canttouchthis80 · 07-25-2009, 03:26 PM

why

XIII · 07-25-2009, 04:11 PM

I dunno, I didn't like it.

***sTr*** · 07-25-2009, 04:46 PM

word, linux is good for what it is... not a daily os for me... not yet at least. they are improving no doubt, but not to the point that ! would like it to.

azriley2k · 07-25-2009, 11:14 PM

XIII Wrote:To be fair, your original argument was just a lame comic about how all you can do on a mac is organize photos.

You're right. my initial argument was a simple comic to over exaggerate my point of view

XIII Wrote:Yes, you can. There are certain combinations that won't work with say, the pre-intel Macs. But you can have more USB (I dunno why you'd need more, mine has over 10 built-in), better video (the selection is small though), not quite sure what an "ethernet card" is, or why you'd have to upgrade one... but you can use ethernet cables on a Mac. And sound cards, same as video... you can upgrade them, you just have a limited selection.

Ethernet card = LAN or internet card. The only reason one would upgrade one I guess would be to go wireless on a desktop. My point was I could pick out anything I wanted from [insert your favorite electronics store here] and as long as I had the ports for it, use it with little or no difficulty.

XIII Wrote:
azriley2k Wrote:I do everything on my PC. I can manage all my finances using Quicken. I can develop web applications and software using visual studio and SQL Server. I can build and modify my network to include networked printers networked drives so that I can access those things through any computer in the house. I have also come to find that there are applications out there (freeware) for anything I can think of. Like for example, did you know there is software designed to assist people that have multiple monitors set up? It's true. It works great too. I don't know if the developers bothered with the same software for Macs though.

All of those can be done on mac, and there are freeware and pirated copies of every good program. I use 2 monitors (one of which is a 40 inch HDTV) and all of my programs utilize this.

Just sounds like you didn't give Macs a chance. Not asking you to, but they can do more than slideshows and coverflow.

You are right maybe I didn't give them a fair chance. Help me change my mind then. What are the advantages of purchasing/using a Mac to that of purchasing/building a windows computer?

XIII · 07-26-2009, 12:02 PM

Honestly, the only difference is the operating system.

Think of Mac as the standardized computer. Like... you know what you're getting. You get it... and your experience never changes.

You can speed it up with RAM, give it some sparkle with gfx cards, expand HDD space... but usually it's future proof and by the time you'd do that, you would probably just rather another computer.

With Windows, I feel, when you buy it, you can upgrade everything for about 3 years. Then stuff becomes a little slow. And not just high-powered programs. EVERYTHING gets slow. Like... clicking the start tab, it'll lag. Highlighting "All Programs" lags. You never get that with a mac. The only time you lag is when you multitask ridiculously.

I had the discussion with Paulieeh, and he said PCs are inexpensive enough to where you can always update to fix that problem. But that's just it. I don't want to keep updating my computer. I don't want the experience to change.

When OSX Tiger came out, you update your machine and it runs fine. When Leopard came out, you update your machine, it runs fine. Final Cut Pro updates fine, Adobe... all fine.

If you took your computer you bought in say... 2003 with XP and tried to put Vista on it. You're fucking DEAD. Unless you go and rebuild your PC.

It's hard to convert people, and I don't expect to do so. My only point is that Mac today isn't the same Mac pre-Steve Jobs. He rebuilt the company. You aren't limited to one-button mouses, 99.9% of your electronics sync with it, it's much more flexible.

It's really hard to make fun of Mac and not sound ignorant. Because there's nothing to make fun of. Except lack of games, but I mean... you just need to know your needs before you buy. If you do a lot of off-roading, you don't get a Corvette. And if you wanna go fast, you don't buy an Econoline.

sacr3dc0w · 08-03-2009, 10:14 PM

I use Mac and have since the Intel switch when I put together a hackintosh on my AMD Athlon 4000 back in the day. Mac's are PCs, just more expensive. I have no need for upgrading components that don't need it (sound, network, etc.) I don't pay Apple for hardware upgrades, I do that myself because it saves a lot of money.

I get to enjoy the best of both worlds, apple's hardware is top notch and still going strong after 3 and a half years. Their customer service can't be fucked with, the software is subjective. I can run Windows, Mac, or Linux all on one computer. What's not to like?

NEKESTRO · 08-09-2009, 12:25 PM

shit i like all of them...

Mac - i dont own one but i use one to record music and i like it better than recording on a PC. Aside from basic issues i personally have just because im not used to the OS. and as far as it not crashing, that shit crashes every once in a blue moon as opposed to a PC, but to say it doesnt crash is impossible.

and Linux, ive only used Ubuntu and i liked it alot but i could not for the life of my unborn child get my NIC card to work. I understand there are known compatibility prollems but ive done a shitload of reading trying to get it to work and others have been successful i guess i just couldnt figure the shit out...i replaced all kinds of firmware, and fuckin everything i dunno fuck it. pz

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